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Neutopia I & II [mostly-] Complete Maps
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 3:07 pm    Post subject: Neutopia I & II [mostly-] Complete Maps Reply with quote

Hi, folks. Today, I felt like hacking Neutopia II, just for the fun of it. What I came out with was an easy way to view all the screens/levels of the game, so I figured I'd put together a complete map for you all.


You can download the full-sized image here: http://www.disgruntleddesigner.com/chrisc/data/NeutopiaII_Overworld.rar
962KB .RAR Archived PNG image.
WARNING! The image itself is 4096x2944 pixels large!

Underground and labyrinth maps may come later...
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Splendid. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

excellent work!
that will be extremely helpful when i play through this sometime later this year (still want to finish the Jpns version of part 1)
Thanks
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome, thanks a lot.

If you ever feel like hacking Neutopia 1 as well and putting together a similar map that'd be fine by me. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are the rest of the maps for Neutopia II, as far as I know:
Houses:
Caves &c:

Labyrinths 1:
Labyrinths 2:

And they can be downloaded from the links below. *BIG FILES & IMAGES, once again!*

http://www.disgruntleddesigner.com/chrisc/data/NeutopiaII_CavesHouses.rar
http://www.disgruntleddesigner.com/chrisc/data/NeutopiaII_Labyrinths.rar

I'll try to hack Neutopia and see what I can get.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ccovell wrote:
Here are the rest of the maps for Neutopia II, as far as I know:

And they can be downloaded from the links below. *BIG FILES & IMAGES, once again!*

I'll try to hack Neutopia and see what I can get.


Wow, thank you so much! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, this is awesome! And yes, if you feel like it, doing the same for the first game would rule! And, this also gets me thinking, since Neutopia 3 is supposed to be much bigger then the 2nd game(I think Nod said around 3 times as big??), then, maybe we should think about a map system for the overworld.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris,

Are you planing on making a Neutopia II editor?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope. I didn't locate the map data, just the in-game position values.
There are sadly not enough people making support software (tile editors, trackers, map editors...) for the good ol' PCE.

(and I, um... am not one of them either.)
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

(Sorry for the bump, but I guess I ought to do this since I've added Neutopia I maps.)

Okay, so here are the maps for Neutopia 1!
The four spheres:



The dungeons and houses:




I didn't add the houses from the rest of the spheres, because I don't think the houses are really relevant to navigating around the worlds, anyway.

So here are the large image files for download:
http://www.disgruntleddesigner.com/chrisc/data/Neutopia1_Overworlds.rar
http://www.disgruntleddesigner.com/chrisc/data/Neutopia1_Dungeons.rar


And I have some unfortunate information: All of these maps have 8 lines of graphics missing from the bottom of each screen in the game (meaning some walls and other graphics don't line up), due to the fact that MagicEngine doesn't display all 240 lines in any PCE game.
This problem is discussed in this post, and now you can see it's not just some theoretical perfectionist gripe but rather a deficiency that has proven to cause real-world problems.

Replies regarding the resolution problem should be made in the forum topic that I just linked to, not here, just to keep it all on topic.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beautiful!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very interesting...that overworld map for N2 is pretty large. The scary part is that individual maps for N3 can be larger than that. That map is 256x184 16x16 pixel tiles in size (512x368 tiles for you purist freaks). The maps in N3 can be up to 256x256 16x16 pixel tiles in size, and there are many regions of this size. That should give you an indication as to the grand scope of N3. Very Happy

Good stuff chris and I hope this doesn't look like a thread hijack attempt. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow! I can't believe it.... I never saw your maps and they're almost exactly the same as mine. I thought there were none in existance and I spent forever on them. I tried to post mine on GameFAQ's but I kept getting unannoted given back as a response every time I tried uploading them. Finally after help from Necstasy I uploaded them to the Video Game Atlas.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paranoia Dragon wrote:
Wow, this is awesome! And yes, if you feel like it, doing the same for the first game would rule! And, this also gets me thinking, since Neutopia 3 is supposed to be much bigger then the 2nd game(I think Nod said around 3 times as big??), then, maybe we should think about a map system for the overworld.


Neutopia 3? When is this? I havnt heard anything of it. Question Question
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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