MagicEngine

finjo34 · Visitor Joined: 24 Aug 2008 Posts: 4

I have the latest MagicEngine 1.13 and have the require bios (SYSCARD3.PCE), load the game normally (virtual drive) like I do with most other turbo cd game. Only this time, this Sapphire graphic is corrupted, total blocky garbage, I try everything, from adjusting the graphic option available to trying download a few other sites, all to no avail. Still blocky chunk of undeciprable graphic, what am I doing wrong ? I can load other cd games notmally without any graphic issue.

Anyone have this problem and able to work around it, please assist me. Thanks.

Kaminari · Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 3:03 pm Post subject:

Try running it with Ootake. If you encounter the same issues, your CD rip is invalid.
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finjo34 · Visitor Joined: 24 Aug 2008 Posts: 4

Kaminari, thanks for bringing up an alternative emulator known as Ootake. But I try downgrading the MagicEngine to ver. 1.0 and guess what.. The graphic problem is gone, and damn, this game rocks. I thought I am gonna skip this game entirely and forget about it, boy... I am grateful that I didn't. To anyone who haven't try the game, I wholly recommend this shooter, it's so awesome, words can't describe how action packed and marvelous this little 30 MB zip download is !

My only question now is why the degraded version is able to run while the latest one couldn't. And Kaminari, is Ootake a good emulator for pc engine ? Also, does anyone else encounter this graphical glitch running Sapphire with the latest MagicEngine 1.13 or is it just me? And can someone provide me a link for the 1.12 version, the 1.0 one is way too outdated although Sapphore still manage to run it superbly and the graphic is stunning. Thanks.

Kaminari · Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 7:55 pm Post subject:

Strange, I don't have any problem with Sapphire and ME 1.1.3.

You can get the previous version here.
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finjo34 · Visitor Joined: 24 Aug 2008 Posts: 4

Thanks again for the link. Hope the 1.12 has no issue with sapphire.

finjo34 · Visitor Joined: 24 Aug 2008 Posts: 4

ME 1.12 has similar graphical glitches. Does ME has 1.10 version? Otherwise, I'll just stick with version 1.0.

segagamer · Visitor Joined: 25 Jan 2006 Posts: 12

Ichabod · Visitor Joined: 18 Aug 2009 Posts: 5

I have exactly the same glitches. Burned with DaemonTools.

Kaminari · Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:23 pm Post subject:

Can't help here, sorry. My original copy works.
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Integrater · Visitor Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2

I know this is an old thread but after having the very same problem with the same game and searching google to find an answer I found this thread hoping to find a solution.

I ended up finding it on my own and would like to put it here.

Simply remove ALL your system card files (*.pce) from your magic engine directory and the game will play perfectly fine with no GFX problems at all.

At least this worked for me.

I hope this is useful to someone.
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Kaminari · Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 7:17 pm Post subject:

Interesting workaround.

However, the built-in Magic System has many issues compared to the real System Cards. Besides, I don't have the problems mentioned in this topic while using a System Card 3 ROM. The graphic bugs must come from some other factor.
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tirewse1 · Visitor Joined: 26 Apr 2011 Posts: 1

good post

David Shadoff · Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:23 am Post subject:

I hate to be so blunt, because most people won't read past the first sentence and simply recoil, but you must be playing with a bad rip.

The original game was actually mastered differently than all other PC Engine games that I aware of - using "Track-At-Once" rather than "Disk-At-Once" mastering. This means that there are additional inter-track linkages which don't exist on other game disks, which cause a number of problems if you play with a rip done through conventional means. One such problem is a blast of noise roughly at the point where a music track might start/end (or loop), and another is graphical glitches.

I recall researching this issue (I believe it was with NightWolve) many years back, and this was one of the motivating factors for him writing his tools and tutorials; he also created a custom hand-edited version of the raw rip of this game due to this problem.